Lionblaze, Jayfeather and Hollyleaf (spoilers for Sunrise)

Lakestorm Wright's picture

SAO. I can has question that may or may not be thought-provoking. When Jayfeather and Lionblaze die, where do you think they'll go? StarClan, Place of No Stars, Tribe of Endless Hunting or otherwise? Personally, I think that Jayfeather's going to end up walking multiple skies with StarClan, the Tribe ancestors and maybe the lakeside cats' ancestors as well (JayxHalf anyone?). As for Lionblaze, I don't think he's going to end up in the Place of No Stars. He wasn't following Tigerstar in the same way that Hawkfrost was in the last three New Prophecy books; he's taking battle lessons from Tigerstar and Hawkfrost and that's it. Besides, he left them for good in Sunrise.

As for Hollyleaf, I think she's dead for good and in the Place of No Stars. I can't think that StarClan would accept a cat that killed another for her own selfish motives and then, in a fit of more selfishness, denounced Leafpool and Squirrelflight to all the Clans, causing Leafpool to have to give up her medicine cat calling (I LOVE LEAFPOOL ;~; ). Let her walk with Hawkfrost and Tigerstar; it's only just that a cat that despised them should be forced to walk the skies they do.

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I don't think Hollyleaf is

I don't think Hollyleaf is going to go to the Place of No Stars. She really thought that what she was doing was the right thing to do, that if Ashfur [for HIS own selfish reasons (I seriously hated Ashfur >.>)] revealed Squirrelflight's secret, the Clan she loved would be destroyed.
How do you blame a cat for that?
And she revealed Squirrelflight and Leafpool's secret in the end because she was angry that she had been lied to her for her entire life. I used to not like Hollyleaf, but I started liking her in the last book, and now I'm sad =[

I agree that Jayfeather will walk in multiple skies - and definitely the ancient lake cats' skies. With Rock and everyone.

I think Lionblaze will go to StarClan. He irks me, but he's not evil, lol.

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Jayfeather- Agree with you

Jayfeather- Agree with you Lakestorm

Lionblaze-STARCLAN!!! :)

Hollyleaf- Alive; fate still needs to be decided

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I think that StarClan will

I think that StarClan will forgive Hollyleaf. I mean, for all of her life, she followed the warrior code to the word. Only in the last moon of her life she went sort of nuts. And she might not have been killed after all.

Jayfeather is definitely going to StarClan. He hasn't done anything bad enough to send him to the Place of No Stars. There is a large possibility that he will walk in other skies because of his ancient counterpart, who would have walked the skies of the ancient tribe/clan.

Lionblaze will probably go to StarClan. He may have followed Tigerstar, but, like his uncle, he was strong enough to rebel. I think that StarClan may respect that. Plus, he's proven himself to be a loyal warrior time and time again.


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Where do you guys think

Where do you guys think Ashfur ended up?


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If anyone ended up in the

If anyone ended up in the Place of No Stars, it was Ashfur, I think.

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That's a tough one. He was

Where did Ashfur go? That's a tough one. He was sane up until the time Squirrelflight dumped him, then he went completely insane. I think he probably went to Place of No Stars, but there is a slim chance StarClan might have forgiven him. But, if he did go to Place of No Stars, good riddance!


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Doesn't it seem like

Doesn't it seem like Brambley should go to StarClan? He followed Tigerstar for a while, and took battle lessons from him. But he turned away from that path. Lionblaze did the same....

I think Hollyleaf survived for a while, but ended up like Fallen Leaves; stuck in the tunnels forever.

I agree about Jayfeather. He seems connected to the ancient cats, the Tribe, and of course StarClan...


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Lakey: I agree about Jay

Lakey: I agree about Jay – that sounds good - & Lion was just foolish, not bad. I don’t know if Holly could go to Starclan, either, but I’m not sure she’s dead, and if she isn’t, she could redeem herself. I agree with Losty about her. I still feel bad for her.

Talon: Good question. I don’t know. I hope we “see” him in the future & find out. Ask it at the next chat.

Wow, you guys are tough. One little slip-up (Bramble) & out of Starclan.

Doesn't anyone else have a comment?

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I think Brambleclaw's going

I think Brambleclaw's going to StarClan. :/ He followed Tigerstar for a short while, yes, but then he later killed his half-brother (who was more similar to Tigerstar than he himself was) to save his leader. A weaker cat might have been tempted by the idea of power and killed Firestar when given the opportunity. It's true that Brambleclaw briefly considered it, but if Firestar realized what a hard battle Brambleclaw had won and left him as deputy, then StarClan should agree with the choice. In The Sight, when Leafpool is asking StarClan who should be deputy, they don't just go "Oh, no, make Graystripe deputy. Brambleclaw's too ambitious for his own good," or anything like that; they let Leafpool and Firestar decide. I think this is proof that StarClan trusts and accepts Brambleclaw, even after the events of Sunset.


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Touch'e. *can't make accents

Touch'e. *can't make accents on this laptop =/*


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